Edited by Robert Beach
We are a year and a few months away from WB/DC’s latest answer to the Avengers: 2017’s Justice League movie. Your level of excitement for that fact may vary based on whether or not you saw the slow-motion train wreck that was Batman v. Superman. Yes, in the wake of WB’s blockbuster debacle, attitudes seem to be shifting around the second biggest superhero team-up ever attempted as Justice League is looking less and less like an assemblage of Earth’s greatest heroes and simply another chance for Zack Snyder and the boneheads at WB and DC entertainment to get everything wrong.
We are a year and a few months away from WB/DC’s latest answer to the Avengers: 2017’s Justice League movie. Your level of excitement for that fact may vary based on whether or not you saw the slow-motion train wreck that was Batman v. Superman. Yes, in the wake of WB’s blockbuster debacle, attitudes seem to be shifting around the second biggest superhero team-up ever attempted as Justice League is looking less and less like an assemblage of Earth’s greatest heroes and simply another chance for Zack Snyder and the boneheads at WB and DC entertainment to get everything wrong.
It’s hard to argue against that particular philosophy given
we’ve seen this guy’s god awful handiwork twice in a row now, but a year is
still a long time with plenty of chances for things to improve. Case in point, Justice League has now officially cast Oscar-winner Willem Dafoe in
a mystery role. Dafoe
has stated his role’s a hero, but anything is possible this early on. With that in mind, let’s make some guesses as to who the former Green Goblin might
be playing.
MARTIAN MANHUNTER
This is the smart money choice for Dafoe’s part at the
moment, and it’s easy to see why. For the longest time, Martian Manhunter was, at best, a no name C-list
superhero that was only really beloved by hardcore comic fans. However, his appearance in the Justice League animated series
introduced him to a generation of youngsters that have now grown up into
20-somethings with money and an interest in seeing the Manhunter from mars make
a return. If there was any ever
doubt about this, Martian Manhunter has become a breakout
supporting character on CBS’ Supergirl
show more or less cements that there is a market for this character
and a place for him in the 2010s overall fascination with the superhero
genre.
Dafoe would be a good fit for the Martian Manhunter overall
given that he’s always been more than a little inhuman. I think the big reason people are
jumping straight for Manhunter is because it’s incredibly difficult to imagine
Dafoe’s demonic, gremlin-like features plastered over a character that’s meant
to be a hero in some way.
Truth be
told, a good chunk of the choices on this list are predicated on "a hero in some way," so I certainly see it. I
don’t totally believe the claims because pretty much no one working on this
project seems like they know enough about comics to pull the Martian Manhunter
out of their hat, but it’d certainly be pretty impressive if they did. Slotting Dafoe into a voice/quasi-CGI
role could certainly work, though I’m not totally convinced it’d be the best use
of his intensity and emotion. You could do a lot worse.
METRON/HIGH FATHER
This one comes pretty heavily out of the speculation on Justice League’s plot, but given what
we’ve already seen of the film in Batman
v. Superman they’re hardly unlikely speculations. Pretty much everyone has agreed that Justice League’s villain will most likely be Darkseid and the New
Gods.
That’s a fair theory; his
iconography was featured prominently in Dawn
of Justice, even appearing as a statue in a deleted scene, and he’s become
the premiere “evil invasion” bad guy of the DCU. Darkseid’s inclusion means he’s more than likely
bringing his mythos with him, which does include heroic characters. Metron
and Highfather seem like the best fit from that group for Willem Dafoe.
The history and nature of the New Gods is a pretty dense
mess that I’m saving for a later blog post. For now, it’s best to think of
them as alien Gods on the level of Thor and friends without the human
mythos. Highfather is the
Zeus/Odin of the New Gods, the wise old leader complete with flowing white
beard and shepherd’s staff. I
don’t think this will be Dafoe’s role given he’s a character that’s meant to
project strength, kindness, and wisdom, but it’s always a possibility.
The more likely turn is that he’ll be
playing Metron, the God of knowledge. Metron’s a weird subset of the New Gods, a nearly omnipotent being that
travels all of reality in his super-science mobius chair and knows
everything. He tends to pop up as
a useful exposition point and all-purpose plot mover. Both of these roles would strand Dafoe in the realm of “low-level supporting character mainly there to give exposition,” which certainly
sounds like a DC decision and would fit with Dafoe not necessarily wanting to
jump into superhero action, though if he did...
DR. FATE/SPECTRE
Now we’re starting to move away from the “likely maybes” and
moving more towards the “fun speculation” side of things. Dr. Fate is the less likely possible of
these two, yet they serve such a similar purpose it’s hard not to see them as a
package deal. Dr. Fate and the
Spectre are essentially the mystical “big guns” of the DC universe, incredibly
powerful heroes of fantasy origins. Both characters also have a history with major shake-ups: Dr. Fate
being a key hero in 3 Darkseid invasions and the Spectre a major element of
every one of DC’s big crisis event comics. Neither one has managed to transition to live action very
well with Dr. Fate managing an extended cameo in Smallville and the Spectre appearing as a foreshadowed future
character on Constantine.
As mentioned, Dr. Fate has more history with Darkseid, but he
really does seem the less likely character. His costume design would mean hiding Dafoe’s face entirely,
which is either a positive or a negative depending on who you ask. What’s more, his weird history and
bizarre place in the mythos would make him a difficult fit. The Spectre honestly makes a lot of
sense, especially if WB’s Justice League
Dark supernatural superhero flick is still in the works. The Spectre’s place as a
horror-oriented magic character would fit Dafoe’s history as an actor, and his
connection to ghosts and the dead would be an easy first step in resurrecting
Superman for Justice League part 2 in 2019.
THE QUESTION
This is more wishful thinking than actual speculation. The
Question is actually a lot like Martian Manhunter in that they’re both
relatively minor heroes whose presence in the animated universe gave them an in
with modern audiences. The
Question’s nowhere near as prominent in actual comics and has yet to transition
to live action; however, he easily could fit in, and his connection to
the Batman mythos makes this a safer bet than you’d think.
As mentioned previously, WB seems to be
hell bent on getting back to cranking out Batman movies and just giving up on
all this other superhero stuff, which is why they’ve been frontloading the
Batman series with Oscar winners. If that’s a pattern, Question could work as Dafoe’s casting as a way to
sneak him into a future Bat film under the radar as Batman’s informant or the
like.
I’m not sure how exactly Question would fit into the Justice
League movie, but he’d be a great fit for Dafoe. The version of Question most folks know is a conspiracy
theorist investigator whose obsession with figuring out “the truth” borders on
full-on mania. It’s a power and intensity that Dafoe could perfectly capture, though maybe not as
well as Jeffrey Combs version of the character on Justice League Unlimited. Additionally, Question’s costume design of a man with no face would be a
pretty clever way around that whole “Willem Dafoe looks terrifying” issue.
GREEN ARROW
We’re getting really deep into speculation with this
one. One of the major rumors
currently floating around is Justice
League part 1 will be set in a world where Darkseid has already taken over
the Earth with the major emphasis being on the Justice League trying to send a
message back in time to prevent Darkseid’s victory. That would certainly fit with the time travel stuff in Dawn of Justice where the Flash pops in
from the future to ramble off some cryptic messages to Batman, though it still
feels a little early to make a strong claim on this. If that is the case, I could see Willem Dafoe cast
as an older, grizzled version of Green Arrow, perhaps working as an
urban archer of the apocalypse in the vein of Connor Hawke on Legends of Tomorrow.
This one feels the most unlikely as it would require the
most stunt work and choreography for Defoe’s character, but I actually think
it’d be a pretty substantial win. Dafoe may be creepy looking, but he can play heroic characters and
slotting him into the role of a wasteland anti-hero could be a good way to
balance his nobility with the unhinged intensity that punctuates a lot
of his performances. Granted, if
this was the case, it’d probably spell doom for CW’s Arrow. Given that the DCEU has sent down a mandate against CW
using movie characters, all the CW shows are living on borrowed time these days
either way. Speaking of CW
characters...
REVERSE FLASH
Like I said,
Dafoe has stated that he’s playing a hero in Justice League, but I’m not quite ready to assume that was the truth
yet. As such, the bottom
three entries on this list are going to be villains because Dafoe feels like a much better fit for bad guy roles than heroic
ones. As mentioned, there’s just
something about Dafoe’s creepy facial ticks and his uncomfortable intensity
that makes him perfect for villain parts, so I could easily see him claiming
heroism as a cover for a more evil position. What’s more, if Justice
League is set in the midst of a successful Darkseid invasion, it’d make
sense for super villains to be working with the heroes against the common enemy. If the goal is time travel, that’d be a perfect fit for the Reverse Flash.
The Reverse Flash is a weird type of super villain owing to
the fact that he was always pretty C-list. It was until the twin shots in the arm of Flashpoint becoming a story DC wants to
market to you and Tom Cavanagh’s incredible performance as Reverse Flash on CW’s
hit Flash series. All of this has left Reverse Flash in
the public eye, though nowhere near as well defined as other blockbuster
villains like Joker or Lex Luthor. Given this, Dafoe would be perfect casting for the part as he’s an actor who can fill in most of the character’s missing definition just by
showing up on set.
STEPPENWOLF
If Willem Dafoe is playing a villain in Justice League, it will be Steppenwolf, Darkseid’s uncle/major
general. It’d be tempting to slot
Dafoe into the spot of Darkseid himself, but I honestly don’t think he’d be a
very good fit for that part. The
thing about Darkseid is he’s like Thanos in that they’re both big,
powerful bad guys that you can honestly slack off on when it comes to the voice
casting.
There are some great
Darkseids, specifically Michael Ironside in the DC animated universe. As you’ve got a deep, booming angry voice, you’ve got your
Darkseid. And yet, that particular
commanding, booming, baritone voice isn’t really associated with Willem Dafoe,
but Steppenwolf is an almost perfect fit.
Steppenwolf as a character is more of a menacing hunter
type, usually framed as Darkseid’s key general or hit man. He’s meant to be older than Darkseid
and a lot less overtly evil. Darkseid is the kind of guy who will go out of his way to be as evil as
possible whenever he can whereas Steppenwolf is just evil in passing or
in sporadic bursts.
Framing Dafoe
as a villainous adviser and mini-boss for the Justice League, maybe a specific
antagonist for Batman or Cyborg, would be a pretty good use of his talents and
honestly a part way to use Dafoe than making him Darkseid. Like I said, the big difference between
Darkseid and Steppenwolf is Steppenwolf had actual character for an
actor like Dafoe to hang a performance on as opposed to Darkseid’s soul full of
gunk.
DOCTOR DESTINY
All right, so it’s time to get really out there
with the speculation. Something
people have picked up on about Batman v.
Superman is crammed to the gills with dream sequence, and that’s pretty
accurate. In fact, the entire plot
of the film is initiated by dream sequences in that both Lex Luthor and Batman
received nightmares to turn them against Superman.
Obviously, the dream elements have been overshadowed by
stuff like the Darkseid iconography or the Justice League cameos, but so much of the film is driven by dreams could still be important as part
of an elaborate misdirection. See,
one of the Justice League’s core bad guys is a villain named Dr. Destiny, a
freaky skeleton wizard-looking guy with the power to mind control people
through their dreams. Could it be
possible that Dr. Destiny is the villain of Justice
League and Willem Dafoe is playing him?
Obviously no, this is decidedly un-possible. It's nice to
pretend. Honestly, Destiny would be
an absolutely great villain pick given the fact he can summon any minion he imagines and tap into character-specific fears and threats in a great
way. It’d externalize the League’s
interpersonal drama and identities into their enemy, and Dafoe would be the
perfect casting.
Dr. Destiny’s
already pretty close to a horror character, for his creepy skeleton face would
be a perfect fit for Dafoe’s natural menace. Of all the roles I’ve suggested, this one is probably
the least likely. It's the one role that I think would work the best, both for
the film and the actor.
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